[Membroj] Mort-al Foot in Mouth

[William A. Cubbedge]

I know enough about history to make the following two statements with
reasonable certitude:

1) The rash generalizations and ad hominem "arguments" you have made are a
sure sign that I am being baited by a bigot.  This fallacious tact is also
employed by the Anti-Semites I've run accross as a duckblind for their
ignorance. and, ironically, by you for what I assume to be the same reason.
I will not engage in an argument with a bigot, nor a wall, nor a cow, nor
any other unreasoning thing.

2) Esperanto was founded to increase understanding among disperate peoples.
You have brought a sectarian religous debate into a forum for Esperanto, and
in so doing, you have appropriated this little corner of the movement to
serve your selfish pursuit of rectitude.

Perhaps I got the Washington society all wrong.  Perhaps this sort of
anti-religious rhetoric is tolorated, or even encoruaged, by the membership.
I am an Esperanto neophyte, and you have sucsesfully chased me away from the
Washington society.  I have no interest in spending my free time in the
company of someone who lacks the self-control to put aside his anti-Catholic
partisanship for the sake of attracting others to Esperanto.

Will Cubbedge




On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:43 AM, Ralph Dumain <rdumain at autodidactproject.org
> wrote:

>  You quite obviously know nothing of history, for example of the period in
> which Adler was active.  The Catholic Church's historic crimes against the
> Jews (not to mention others) are well-known, so deal with it.  Secondly,
> it's one thing to be born into something and make the best of it, but
> conversion is entirely another matter.  A Jew converting to Catholicism,
> that is, to defect to his persecutors, is a turn to authoritarianism and the
> right.  A conversion to a more conservative and authoritarian denomination
> of the same religion might be comparable.  For example, a secular Jew
> turning orthodox.  Or a liberal Catholic joining the fascist Opus Dei.  That
> Esperanto is the creation of a member of a persecuted people is no accident,
> and if you can't be honest about history, you need to refrain from engaging
> in major discourse.
>
> On another note, there have been several critiques of the Great Books
> program.  I can't put my finger on more than one. I recall only the first I
> ever read:
>
> Macdonald, Dwight. "The Book-of-the-Millennium Club," in *Against the
> American Grain: Essays on the Effects of Mass Culture* (New York: Vintage
> Books, 1965), pp. 243-261.
>
> There is a body of literature on intellectual popularization in the first
> half of the 20th century. I don't recall whether this book addresses the
> Great Books program, but here's an important reference:
>
> Rubin, Joan Shelley. *The Making of Middlebrow Culture*. Chapel Hill:
> University of North Carolina Press, 1992.
>
> I do not recall whether this noted author addresses the Great Books at all:
>
> Cotkin, George. "Middle-Ground Pragmatists: The Popularization of
> Philosophy in American Culture," *Journal of the History of Ideas*, vol.
> 55, no. 2, April 1994, 283-302.
>
>
> At 10:38 PM 10/29/2008, Will Cubbedge wrote:
>
> Your gutter language and your association of my Catholic fath with
> anti-semitism on a public Esperanto email list does not help the language
> any more than Adler's dumb use of the word Esperanto.
>
>


-- 
William A. Cubbedge, J.D.
301-328-7761

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