I know enough about history to make the following two statements with reasonable certitude:<br><br>1) The rash generalizations and ad hominem "arguments" you have made are a sure sign that I am being baited by a bigot. This fallacious tact is also employed by the Anti-Semites I've run accross as a duckblind for their ignorance. and, ironically, by you for what I assume to be the same reason. I will not engage in an argument with a bigot, nor a wall, nor a cow, nor any other unreasoning thing.<br>
<br>2) Esperanto was founded to increase understanding among disperate peoples. You have brought a sectarian religous debate into a forum for Esperanto, and in so doing, you have appropriated this little corner of the movement to serve your selfish pursuit of rectitude. <br>
<br>Perhaps I got the Washington society all wrong. Perhaps this sort of anti-religious rhetoric is tolorated, or even encoruaged, by the membership. I am an Esperanto neophyte, and you have sucsesfully chased me away
from the Washington society. I have no interest in spending my free
time in the company of someone who lacks the self-control to put aside
his anti-Catholic partisanship for the sake of attracting others to
Esperanto. <br><br>Will Cubbedge<br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:43 AM, Ralph Dumain <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rdumain@autodidactproject.org">rdumain@autodidactproject.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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You quite obviously know nothing of history, for example of the period in
which Adler was active. The Catholic Church's historic crimes
against the Jews (not to mention others) are well-known, so deal with
it. Secondly, it's one thing to be born into something and make the
best of it, but conversion is entirely another matter. A Jew
converting to Catholicism, that is, to defect to his persecutors, is a
turn to authoritarianism and the right. A conversion to a more
conservative and authoritarian denomination of the same religion might be
comparable. For example, a secular Jew turning orthodox. Or a
liberal Catholic joining the fascist Opus Dei. That Esperanto is
the creation of a member of a persecuted people is no accident, and if
you can't be honest about history, you need to refrain from engaging in
major discourse.<br><br>
On another note, there have been several critiques of the Great Books
program. I can't put my finger on more than one. I recall only the
first I ever read:<br><br>
Macdonald, Dwight. "The Book-of-the-Millennium Club," in
<i>Against the American Grain: Essays on the Effects of Mass Culture</i>
(New York: Vintage Books, 1965), pp. 243-261.<br><br>
There is a body of literature on intellectual popularization in the first
half of the 20th century. I don't recall whether this book addresses the
Great Books program, but here's an important reference:<br><br>
Rubin, Joan Shelley. <i>The Making of Middlebrow Culture</i>. Chapel
Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 1992. <br><br>
I do not recall whether this noted author addresses the Great Books at
all:<br><br>
Cotkin, George. "Middle-Ground Pragmatists: The Popularization of
Philosophy in American Culture," <i>Journal of the History of
Ideas</i>, vol. 55, no. 2, April 1994, 283-302. <br><div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
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At 10:38 PM 10/29/2008, Will Cubbedge wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Your gutter language and your
association of my Catholic fath with anti-semitism on a public Esperanto
email list does not help the language any more than Adler's dumb use of
the word Esperanto. </blockquote></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>William A. Cubbedge, J.D.<br>301-328-7761<br><br>***************************************************************************************************<br>The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this email by anyone other than the intended addressee is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, retention, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please reply to or forward a copy of this message to the sender and delete the message, any attachments, and any copies thereof from your system.<br>
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